Why did Just Use Atom only just come about?
The origins of the Just Use Atom craze pre-date the movement of 2003-09-25, given the Just Use Atom proposal on AtomNameDiscuss. That vote was overturned, however, and yet the tides have changed again.
What's changed between now and then?
Many of the reasons are given by Morbus "idiot, immoral, smells bad, has no friends (for good reason), and all around is evil" Iff in his atom-syntax address. But there's no denying that the original suggestion had great approval, and that the current social engineering is being well-conducted.
Who came up with the original name Atom?
As far as it's possible to discern from the wiki, it was Matt Haughey.
Why did Atom not get chosen as a name straight away?
People seemed to be on edge because of the problems that Echo had, and when someone suggested that Atom had legal problems too, the name was dropped like a hot potato. Since then, it appears that the name doesn't have a legal problem.
So what started the new Just Use Atom trend?
Well, therein lies a story...
*** #echo Morbus (email@example.com) joined the channel * Morbus shifts eyes evilly. <sbp> hey verbosus <verbosus> hey sbp <sbp> (#echo? geddit? :-) <sbp> ) <Morbus> what's going on with the naming process? <Morbus> someone needs to step up and choose one. <sbp> the naming process is currently stagnant, but trying to proceed <Morbus> this is getting far too destructive. <sbp> http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/NameFinalVote <verbosus> Is there a closing date for the current vote? <sbp> that's the 50th round of voting <sbp> yeah. September 30th <verbosus> Bloody hell. <sbp> and then we all wreak havoc changing the name all across the wiki <sbp> and when anyone complains, we slam them for not taking part in the vote <sbp> muahahaha <Morbus> Nota? <Morbus> so like, NotAGoodSpec? <verbosus> Heh <Morbus> winer'll love that . <rubys> suppose the complaint is: "have you obtained legal approval for this name"? <sbp> heh, well I was being flippant. I'd really like to see the same level of participation as we've had in the past <Morbus> hasn't that stuff been researched already in the recommendations? <sbp> since there basically needs to be a name at some point <sbp> but part of the vetting process guidelines was to seek legal approval <Morbus> i'm not choosing Nota for reasons of mispronounciation. <sbp> of course, I doubt that anyone did a significantly thorough job <Morbus> in four years, we'll have soundclips of how to pronounce GUI and MySQL. <sbp> my-squeal <Morbus> wrong ;) <sbp> I know <verbosus> Was this thing of being looked for legal approval posted on the wiki? <Morbus> sigh. i think i'm gonna abstain from the vote, then. <Morbus> not sure i like any of these names. <Morbus> was Atom legally taken? <sbp> can you think of a better on? <sbp> Atom legally taken: not sure. people dropped it because they believed that it is, though <Morbus> that'll be more destructive than anything sbp. <Morbus> someone who hasn't been part of the process swoopign in with new suggestions. <sbp> heh, heh <Morbus> like i'm reinventing the world. <verbosus> Heh, the same here, Morbus. <rubys> one big complaint on Atom was that it only obtained a pluratity, not a majority. I have it from numerous sources that Atom is "probably" OK legally. <sbp> and the plurality seems to me to have been people sheeping after the big bloggers <Morbus> i think, honestly, that Atom should be used. <Morbus> everyone refers to it as such, same with the media. <Znarf> [+1] ;-) <sbp> yeah <Morbus> regardless of whether its voted on, its been as common as wite-out or rollerblading. <sbp> as much as I dislike the name, it seems bound now <sbp> I think there'd be great value in that <Morbus> indeed. <Morbus> we'll have to reeducate thousands of people on the name. <Morbus> that everyone has, in some aspects, been referring to as atom (either solely, or as echo/atom/pie). <Morbus> less confusion, less reinvention. <verbosus> 8om <Morbus> 80m? <sbp> plus there are many things which won't be changed <sbp> old blog entries referring to Atom etc. <verbosus> In the US, don’t you pronounce it eigh-tom? <sbp> "up and adddam" "up and atom!" "up and adddam" "up and *atom!*" "up and addam!" "sigh... better!" <sbp> i.e. no. aht-uhm <sbp> AFAIK <sbp> there are probably some states that voted to say it differently <Morbus> hmm. verbosus, interesting point. <Morbus> but, that seems more like "potato" and "potahto" then "note-a" and "not-a". <Morbus> potaaaato, potaaaahhhto, i mean. <sbp> yeah. 8om and aht-uhm are mutually intelligable <sbp> heh <verbosus> Yeah. <verbosus> 80m! <Morbus> 8mm? <verbosus> Looks crap, though. <Morbus> let's make a snuff film. <sbp> looks lee7 <sbp> er... 1337 <verbosus> Yeah d00d. <sbp> r0ffle <Morbus> now, now. <Morbus> signal to noise, people, signal to noise! * Morbus chuckles knowingly. <verbosus> Morbus: as if… <sbp> come on, man, we use utf-8! how can anything we say be signalless? <verbosus> Yup. <Morbus> yeah, verbosus is annoying the hell outta me with his utf ;) * verbosus chats in UTF-8 since, err, last night. <sbp> it's funny really--makes me want to start learning all the encodings <verbosus> Morbus: what pathetic IRC client are you using that doesn’t grok UTF-8? <Morbus> verbosus: trillian on win32. * verbosus is using XChat Aqua on OS X. <verbosus> Yeah: I used to use it and used to be pissed off at UTF-8 aware fellows as well. * bitsko peeks in to see he missed all the fun <Morbus> loads, oads. <sbp> heh. perhaps it could be approached from an "it's going to be called atom unless anyone raises legally confirmably reasons why it shouldn't be" point of view <sbp> s/ably/ed/ <sbp> garner consensus by subtle force <sbp> on September 30th, Nota is bound to be ahead on NameFinalVote <sbp> on October 1st, Atom is still bound to be called Atom <xian> why bad Nota? <sbp> oh, I'd be fine with it being called Nota. don't get me wrong. I even voted for it, as has bitsko, as has verbosus <sbp> it's just that the current participation in NameFinalVote is miniscule <verbosus> Yeah, +1 for me. <sbp> if Sept 30th comes, and suddenly every Pie/Atom/Echo covering blog out there proclaims Nota the new name, and heralds the start of a permanently named format, then fine <sbp> but I rather doubt that'll happen <sbp> which is a shame because this has been the least turbulent round of voting :-) <verbosus> BTW, if there are problems with Nota we can go with Mota, reverse for Atom. <sbp> I think that'd require a re-vote, though... <Morbus> we'd need to form a committee. <verbosus> Which I think has some nasty spanish meaning attached to it, not sure. <sbp> babelfish says "Speck" <sbp> which doesn't seem too nasty <sbp> but babelfish is also crazy <verbosus> sbp: I’m referring to some swear words (in a Black Crowes record, at the end of a song, someone says something like ‘esta es la mejor mota’) <verbosus> Whatever, Mota isn’t even in the candidates. <verbosus> Morbus, what about that committee? <sbp> Mota was the name of an Offspring song, too <sbp> good song IMO, but it lends creedance to that point, yeah <sbp> aha. '"Esta es la mejor mota" --> loosely translated to english, "This is the best weed"' - http://blackcrowes.net/archive/FAQ.doc <xian> the mota in gopod's eye * verbosus is amazed at his level of understanding of spoken spanish <sbp> okay, so mota would almost certainly need a re-vote <sbp> Asbjorn: "It's scary to see the lack of participation and activity on the Wiki these days." - NameFinalVote <sbp> the fad has seemed over for a couple of months <sbp> but that's nice because the few hardworkers (Sam, bitsko, etc.) are still at it <bitsko> I'll be taking a break for a bit while move ;) <sbp> heh. of course