For the Want of a Nail

_why: Camping is specifically geared for Architects of the Modern Age. Apart from that, its authentic wood-smoked hickory smell only attracts some feral cats. To these I say: mepw.

This should be fun to watch.  Tim is well known as a pedant.  I didn’t catch on at first that Camping was suitable to non-database installations.  On that very note alone, camping may be worth a look.

My issue is that there are a number of superficial signs that _why’s attention to detail appears to be somewhat... lacking.  His page supports a link to the W3C validator and claims XHTML 1.0 compliance, when the truth of the matter is that the page isn’t even well formed.  And we all know what Tim thinks about such people.  Similarly, _why’s feed sports some relative URI references, yet he chose a feed format for which such things will forever remain undefined.

Don’t get me wrong, I know plenty of good people who have no interest in XHTML, and can produce clean, non-funky, and workable RSS 2.0 feeds.  My only concern here is the informal heuristics that trying and failing provide.

And, truth be told, _why seems like the kind of chap who is up for a challenge.


Sam,
I think when you say campfire in your post you refer to camping.

Elfred

Posted by Elfred Pagan at

I think there is something strange going on with your feed, Sam. For example, this cannot be right, can it?:

<link href="2006/07/11/For-the-Want-of-a-Nail"/>

Posted by Simon Jessey at

Uh Oh, Someone Saw the Smoke

Tim Bray: Yep, Camping does seem to provide something not entirely unlike an application framework in a little file, provided of course you download and install several acres of infrastructure. Sam Ruby: My issue is that there are a number of...

Excerpt from RedHanded at

Elfred: fixed.  Thanks!

Simon: that’s a relative URI reference.  People do it in RSS all the time, even though the results are undefined and vary from tool to tool.  With Atom, the results are very clearly defined, and a number of tools intend to be fully compliant.

Posted by Sam Ruby at

Hey, thanks for the link! The host is a little old, though; I usually use manuzhai.nl only these days. While I realize I should have put a Permanent Redirect in place (which I will do as soon as I finish eating diner), could you may be also change the link? Just replace “manuzhai.xavamedia.nl” with “manuzhai.nl”.

Posted by Manuzhai at

Sam, you’re still saying “Campfire” in your first paragraph...

Posted by Stephen Duncan Jr at

you’re still saying “Campfire” in your first paragraph

For somebody who is calling somebody on attention to detail, I’m not exactly setting a sterling example, am I?

Sigh.

In any case, thanks!  Fixed.

Posted by Sam Ruby at

Red Handed: Uh Oh, Someone Saw the Smoke

Tim Bray: Yep, Camping does seem to provide something not entirely unlike an application framework in a little file, provided of course you download and install several acres of infrastructure. Sam Ruby: My issue is that there are a number of...

Excerpt from Planet Ruby at

Uh Oh, Someone Saw the Smoke

Tim Bray: Yep, Camping does seem to provide something not entirely unlike an application framework in a little file, provided of course you download and install several acres of infrastructure. Sam Ruby: My issue is that there are a number of...

Excerpt from Ruby on SWiK.net at


*snickers

Posted by Robert Sayre at

“People do it in RSS all the time, even though the results are undefined and vary from tool to tool.  With Atom, the results are very clearly defined, and a number of tools intend to be fully compliant.”

I’m using the Sage extension for Firefox, and it doesn’t appear to like them. Wah!

Posted by Simon Jessey at

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