Cooperate on Standards...
Danese Cooper: So...I’m wondering how long it will take the various Linux distros to figure out that they can ship Harmony (as they ship Apache) pre-installed and ready to use (even while they continue to put Sun’s JRE in the “non-free” directory, where its still two clicks away from users).
The question isn’t whether there will be a fully-compatible implementation of J2SE 5.0 under an OSI license in two or three JavaOne’s from now; but rather one of how many, fully-compatible, implementations of J2SE 5.0, under an OSI license, there will be; and whether any of them will be ready by the next JavaOne.
The sun-java5-jdk is more than two clicks away. And there is an additional click-through license agreement. Clearly, that won’t stop users from installing it. But it will stop developers from depending on it being there.
Developers like the ones working on Open Office.
No Monopoly on Good
There I was thinking we’d done something useful and good, getting the DLJ written and decent packages produced for Java SE 5 on GNU/Linux and OpenSolaris, and not pretending it was open source Java yet. I understand there’s a lot of history here,...Excerpt from SunMink at
After installation:
rubys@rubypad:~$ update-alternatives --display java java - status is auto. link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0 - priority 40 slave rmiregistry: /usr/bin/grmiregistry-4.0 slave rmiregistry.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/grmiregistry-4.0.1.gz slave java.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/gij-wrapper-4.0.1.gz /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java - priority 1040 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/man/man1/java.1.gz /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java - priority 53 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz Current `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java.Posted by Sam Ruby at
Looks fine to me. Nothing wrong with having a higher priority for free software, afaict.
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Sam Ruby: Cooperate on Standards...
Mr. Ruby on the Danese’s piece vis a vis open sourcing Java...Excerpt from del.icio.us/sogrady at
Links for 2006-05-19 [del.icio.us]
Open Source Java, Part 3 - Miguel de Icaza very interesting and thoughtful piece from Miguel on open sourcing Java; check out especially his commentary on OO.o and Solaris - as well as the comparions in the last sentence Andi Gutmans' Weblog:...Excerpt from tecosystems at
Vitriolic Trash Talk?
First on Simon’s list? Me. Vitriolic? Trash Talk? You decide. More of a yawn. Or perhaps, a loyal opposition of sorts. Remember, Tim was the one who noted that... [more]Trackback from Sam Ruby at
I don’t think the question is “whether any of them will be ready by the next JavaOne”. After you check GNU Classpath (+99% of all JavaSE 1.4 APIs), Kaffe and GCJ status and their success running apps — just small toys like Eclipse, Tomcat, Struts and JonAS so far ;-) you will ask: "will Sun let then run the TCK in time to prove at the next JavaOne they are ready"?
Posted by Fernando Lozano at
Heh, but they already are.
popcon.debian.org/by_vote [link]
#rank name inst vote old recent no-files (maintainer)
615 gij-4.0 3931 1231 1213 1485 2 (Debian Gcc Maintainers)
741 kaffe-pthreads 3699 950 860 1888 1 (Debian Java Maintainers)
839 sun-j2sdk1.5 1176 811 311 51 3 (Not in sid)
920 j2re1.4 1059 698 307 43 11 (Not in sid)
1091 sun-j2re1.5 808 550 179 76 3 (Not in sid)
cheers,
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