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Long time no talk about RSS, but I'm overdue. Thanks to a pointer from Sam, I read The article Why Blogs haven't stormed the business world. According to it, the reason why more weblogs aren't in use today is because it's too difficult to move... [more]

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The article is clueless, why did you link to it?

I think the folks slamming this guy for his poor grasp of technology aren't really listening to what he is trying to say.  He understands that blogs are going to become an important element of the infrastructure and he sees that the blogging tools will need to be more integrated, reliable and extendable before they reach there potential in the enterprise.

I saw his article as an early attempt by an emmisary of the enterprise pragmatists to grok what is happening in the blog world.  Pragmatists always frame new technology by what they already understand.  In this case, the author is seeing blogs are some sort of uber-portal.

So, I'll take his forethought gratefully and leave the technical details to burningbird's junior programmer.

Paul,
Or maybe some of us are slamming the article because we have a problem with articles where the title and central theme are barely connected to the content of the article by any shred of logic.

The article makes a valid point about enterprises prefering to have information they can catalog and store [which is something a number of enterprises decry about instant messaging] but then leaps to the conclusion that this somehow requires that all blogging backends must standardize on their archive format to interoperate.

This is as ludicrous as claiming that relational database systems won't catch on because one can't easily port their mySQL database to IBM's DB2 or Oracle or video game consoles won't catch on until I can play my Sega DreamCast games on a Playstation 2 or online music won't catch on until I can play OOg files in my MP3 player or ... (you get the idea).

The article may point out valid issues with blogging software but the air of sensationalism and faulty conclusions is a turn off.

Paul, it was the statement, "I'll leave it to the experts to iron-out the specifics". I don't know if any developer that hasn't had someone like this come in and say, "I have a great idea, I came up with it all by myself, I know I'm right, and this is what you developers are going to do. You work out the details."

He's coming from a place that assumes he knows what the problem is, here it is, now the rest of us, make it work. How? By making RSS, which is for syndication, much more complex. See? Why didn't we all think of this.

Pure link bait.

He's saying that enterprises aren't using weblogging because of transform problems, when enterprises have the programming expertise to do more than this, easily. What business has held off weblogging because they're concerned about switching weblogging tools? Where is his justification for his statement? References?

Pure conjecture.

Personally, I had rather hoped my snide and petty response was comforting to him. Something familiar.

I know a "friend" (in similar sense that Dave W. is my "friend"), who is CEO and President of a $2B company that could immensely benefit from blogging, imo(bservation).

ONE reason, not the main one but a biggie, is lack of transportability.  This friend actually attended my wedding, and I would NEVER recommend some product that is solely dependent on a small company with a short track record.  (With short being measured in years rather than decades.)

It's not just the portability between the products, but the possibility that the functionality is SO different that re-training would be prohibitive.  So there are several ways that "semi-lockin" is almost as bad as lockin.

No, I'm not an expert in all areas of weblogging, nor business either (haha...! not by a LONG shot!!)...  But we're not ALL idiots, but rather bozo's, on this bus Shelley.  Some-a you have SOME familiar with enterprise IT, but I doubt you have much experience running an entire enterprise for a decade or more, seeing how a single enterprises IT needs evolves over that time, from what I see posted.

And as far as "Personally, I had rather hoped my snide and petty response was comforting to him. Something familiar."

Well I'd hafta imagine you have SOME personal grudge against this writer, if you actually believe that...!

Phil Wainewright I've just subscribed to Phil Wainewright's archive of press releases at looselycoupled.com. (PR folk take note: I subscribed voluntarily to this feed.) An analyst and writer focused on Web services, Phil has built an application...

Boy, with "friends" like that, who needs "enemies"?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Haha, Mark...! :-D  I can appreciate a joke, even on me...;-D

But how'd ya KNOW about that "friend"-a mine that went to my wedding?? ..'Cause he wasn't any /friend/..! but my BOSS of many years, and one-a the two prime mentors, of many, I had at that job...!!

Then again, you could-a been referring to Shelley and me..  And I suppose sometimes I may lean one way or the other too much..  Towards appearing "enemy", and mebbe some-a the "friend" stuff gets overlooked...

Or you could-a been referring to somethin' else.. I dunno...;-D

sniff serendipity supports (and has supported) RSS import and export for awhile now.  http://www.sf.net/projects/php-blog/

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"ONE reason, not the main one but a biggie, is lack of transportability."

You have to be kidding. How is weblog content less transportable than your average CMS (of which I'm sure that company has at least one running)? Any programmer can write code in a day that exports almost any weblog's tools content in any xml format you like. Stupid.

Long time no talk about RSS. I'm overdue. Thanks to a pointer from Sam, I read The article Why Blogs haven't stormed the business world. According to it, the reason why more weblogs aren't in use today is because it's too difficult to move content from one tool to another: The greatest problem, however, is not the limitations of the front end of this software, but rather what goes on behind the curtain, so to speak. As bloggers add content to their sites, the programs...... [more]

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