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I had heard good things about BlogLines, so I thought I would give it a spin.  I didn't plan on switching, but I did: that's how good it is.

What sold me was the integration with the way I use Mozilla.  With SharpReader, I would skim titles, dip into those that seemed interesting.  Of those that merited further investigation, I would open in a separate window, and come back to once I had completed my initial scan.

With Bloglines, I skim articles, and open the ones that merit further investigation in a separate tab.  All in all, I'm finding that I can read more in less time.

Other benefits: by being server based, I don't have to worry about keeping machines synchronized.  Also by fetching feeds once and then serving them multiple times, Bloglines acts as a collector/distributor, which will make feeds even more scalable.

Now for two niglets:

All things considered, Bloglines has become my new default aggregator.


Bloglines vs. RSS Reader Panel

Sam Ruby just converted to a server-side news aggregator called Bloglines. I like the idea behind server-side news aggregators, and I think that Bloglines is a good implementation of one. However, after trying it out, I still prefer the RSS...... [more]

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AS for your second niglet, can't you use the "Save" feature on each item to save it for future reference etc.?

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It has some minor quirks in organizing folders. It's kinda difficult to put an item on an empty folder. I ended up editing my OPML file manually and importing it on a new account.

But they are always improving it and fixing bugs. I've sent an e-mail asking for a feature and they replied in a matter of hours. A couple of days passed, and then I saw the thing implemented. Really sweet.

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Ish. Also, ick. That would be annoying, since saving throws up a popup asking where, and the problem is just to keep them from going away before you expect them to, not a desire to save them for all time.

The problem is that if you refresh the window (right-click another tab, aim for Refresh tab and hit Refresh all tabs instead), or accidentally click a feed link in the menu frame, that's it, your new items are gone. Trying to get them back by displaying new-last-hour can be interesting (who knew Scoble was already publishing his 2009 posts?), but given the nature of per-item times in RSS, it's generally not the same thing as "all items that were new in the last hour." Combination of two problems, possibly neither one can be solved, but as Sam says, a GET on /myblogs/ isn't idempotent, and then there's no way back to "new to me -1", "new to me -2".

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Sam, you may find Corral interesting. it's another server based aggregator. it doesn't have all the features that bloglines does, but it was designed to be RESTful. the biggest drawback right now is that it's running off my workstation, so it isn't exactly fast or reliable. but the code is available, so you can run it on your own mod_perl enabled server.

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Bloglines puts the number of subscribers in the User-Agent when it fetches your feed, so you can see exactly how well it's scaling.  839 Bloglines users subscribe to my Atom feed, but of course it only fetches it once.

Two minor gripes: several people are subscribed to old locations of feeds that permanently redirect (301) to the new location.  But Bloglines continues to fetch the feed at the old URL, only to be told over and over again that the feed is permanently at a new address.

The other thing is that, if no one is subscribed to a feed, Bloglines still fetches it.  I've created a few temporary feeds for testing purposes, subscribed, then unsubscribed, but Bloglines is still fetching them even though it admits (in the User-Agent) that no one is subscribed to them.

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Mark:

Tell them about it. The owner has responded to all of my bugreports in 24 hours. And we live in different sides of Atlantic.

Posted by Smejmoon at

One thing I've noticed (unless it's something completely obvious and I'm just missing it) is that there's no way, as a subscriber, to modify the URL of a subscribed feed without deleting it and recreating the subscription.  For example, there's no way to simply edit a feed so that you're pulling a site's Atom feed as opposed to, say, their old excerpts-only RSS 0.91 feed.

Posted by Dave Walker at

I use sharp reader as well, what I did though was configure my browser (Moz Firebird/FireFox) to open external links in a new tab in the same window (I might have used the tab browser extensions to do this). I then just run through sharp reader opening clicking when I find an interesting link and then tabbing through them all at the end. This has the benefits of being able to bookmark all your tabs as well so you can go back and read all the unread items later, as well as maintaining all the downloaded feeds in sharp reader as well.

Posted by Ben Meadowcroft at

What sold me was the integration with the way I use Mozilla.

That's exactly what sold me on BlogLines at first.  It was only after I started using it that I realized how easy it was to use from, say, somebody else's computer.  It is a really nice service.

Posted by Scott Johnson at

Thanks for all the great comments and suggestions. We really appreciate it. I can't respond to everything here, but a couple of things:

Re: crawling feeds with 0 subscribers. This has been the subject of internal debate for us for awhile now. The idea behind that was that even if a feed had no subscribers, having the data would make the search database more complete. We have just changed the crawler to not index feeds with 0 subscribers while we re-evaluate this. Most likely we will switch to a system where we will continue to crawl a feed with 0 subscribers for N days, possibly a week. If after that there are still no subscribers, we'll stop crawling the feed and remove it from the database.

Re: 301 redirects. We need to change the URLs permanently in the database when we get these redirects, and we aren't now. One of the things that complicates this is that sometimes web servers will be mis-configured temporarily. Most likely we will also go with an algorithm that says if we get 301s for N days (maybe 2 or 3), then permanently change the URL.

Thanks for all the great feedback, and if you have any additional feedback or questions, feel free to email support@bloglines.com

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Sam Ruby: Bloglines Bloglines I had heard good things about BlogLines, so I thought I would give it a spin. I didn't plan on switching, but I did: that's how good it is. What sold me was the integration with the way I use Mozilla. With SharpReader, I would skim titles, dip into those that seemed interesting. Of those that merited further investigation, I would open in a separate window, and come back to once I had completed my initial scan. Taking Sam Ruby's advice, I'm giving Bloglines a shot. I've just imported my opml file from Amphetadesk (which is really quite irksome when you're used to Radio's aggregator.) and we'll see how it goes. Also, worthy of note perhaps is that this is my first post using the MT bookmarklet. So far so good. I had to wrap the copied text in blockquote tags, but other than that this is pretty damn smooth....... [more]

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Although I like the SharpReader interface and concept, I wasn't happy trying to keep things synced between work/home/laptop, much less while traveling and using other computers. Bloglines is pretty fantastic-- my only quibble is that I could REALLY use a nested folder facility!

For the most part, RSS subscriptions have replaced bookmarks in my daily use...

Posted by Chris L at

i've been using bloglines for a while now, and i'm sold on it.  i love the browser based functionality (no sychronizing home vs. work computers!), and i have been able to manage my subscriptions into nice little packages that work for me.  the search feature, and subscription recommendations are also very handy - except i end up being subscribed to far too many feeds - that is probably because of my eternal quest for knowledge, and nothing that i blame on bloglines, though.

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Yes, your story is similar to mine. I was using Feed on Feeds, a server-based aggregator, and gave Bloglines a try. It has become my standard. Nevertheless, I am prepared to switch back to FoF or to something else, if the other shoe drops, i.e., Bloglines becomes fee-based or saturated with advertising. I wonder if anyone has considered a distributed-server-based aggregator that uses a BitTorrent approach, whereby each subscriber would help to serve to others the subscriptions he or she read?

Posted by jcwinnie at

My favorite aggregator is my "Blogs" folder under "Favorites" in Mozilla which I can view all at once with the "Open in Tabs" menu selection.

Full CSS and everything!

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Bloglines: it's that good

Mark Fletcher wrote, a year and a half before launching the blazing fast Bloglines web-based aggregator: "just like fast cars will get you all the chicks, fast Internet services will get you all the users." Well, I've followed in Sam Ruby 's tracks and am... [more]

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bloglines

I've joined others who are using bloglines these days. It's all the rage. I was using blo.gs but you don't actually read feeds there, you can only check when they've been updated. Everyone using bloglines. Set your subscriptions to public so we can all so who's subscribed to who.... [more]

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Since last fall, I've been recommending Bloglines to first-timers as the fastest and easiest introduction to the subscription side of the blogosphere. Remarkably, this same application also meets the needs of some of the most advanced users. I've...

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Sam, BlogBridge is still very much in beta, but it's an interesting hybrid of a nice, rich, user client with an associated online service that uses XML-RPC to keep your favorites and unread marks in synch over multiple computers.

Also the design center for BlogBridge is on people like you (and me) who want to be able to follow lots of feeds in the most efficient way possible.

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