intertwingly

¿Sam es un visionario de los servicios de tela? ¡Como si ese ego necesitara frotar ligeramente!

Quotes Ruby: By and large, SOAP itself hasn't evolved. To add, SOAP applications don't exist in large numbers. In fact, most Web services are still based on XML/HTTP, ex. RSS. source Intertwingly.net....

Looks like Randy has the Elephant by the tail.

If you have any interest in business process or any interest in the software development process and you combine that with an interest in blogging then you really should read this interview with Sam Ruby. I realize that I have had such tunnel vision...

James: tela is more like spider web. In Spanish, for the web, just use "web". :)

Christian: I've also known of people to use "la red" (literally, "the net") in places where I would have expected them to use "the web".  I don't know if this is widespread, but it was something that caught my eye a while back.

Clearly, the seeming impossibility of a complete and correct ontology mapping is an area that fascinates me.

First reference to Sam on usenet(?):
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=1994Sep20.163845.7828%40brtph560.bnr.ca

First Post from Sam on usenet(?):
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=364CA1FB.F4D04503%40us.ibm.com

Sam:
This is very true and its a problem that transcends Spanish. Una red is a network. La red is the network. I suppose we could assume, based on context, that the Internet (mother of all networks so to speak) is the Network, but "as we know"? there is a difference between the Web and the Net. Of course, some people say they are "surfing the net" instead of "surfing the web" in English (and I'd venture many other languages). I used to think this was a mistake, but in some sense, I see the Internet being homogenized. Interestingly, tools like <strike>RSS</strike> information aggregators help to blur the distinction and soon (already?!) we may "surf" more than RSS feeds and websites... P.S. Your spell checker rocks, but could you add "aggregator" to its dictionary? :)

Sam, Re: embrace and extend

So what we decided to do was, instead, open source it, and say, "Here is a
ubiquitous, in essence de facto reference implementation." It's not anointed as a
reference implementation, but it achieves the same purpose. It's our way of
increasing the probability that this implementation of a standard is adopted. Our
version was absolutely the most compliant with the SOAP specifications at the time,
and got a lot of people noticing it.

Have you noticed that, in a sense, open sourcing a Reference Implementation
and having a public, open, standard on it is the ultimate form of embrace and extend?

Instead of arguing through power and authority, arguing through seduction. Dave Winer reasoned about it,
a while ago, though I'm not sure the examples are relevant. I blogged recently about in Spanish in a different context.

It started paying well after technical communication costs were divided by some orders of magnitude by la Red, and latencies went to zero. Before the web, the communities were too closed for it to work.

In a sense, playing namespaces in RSS is a very gentle embrace and extend strategy. No problem with it if the game field is a clean, well lighted, place.

Re: Ontology mappings, read The Library of Babel (Original Spanish) by Borges. It is the best metaphor of the web I've seen, written in 1941, and after Robert Burton work, much older attempt to seduce the whole universe. Borges cheated using infinity for it. We are trying now with blogs. And our favorite Web Services Visionary is paving the way.

James, Some Rubbing? or is it a Google artifice

Davanum: My oldest question in Usenet looks relevant even today

Wandering more and more off-topic. It's Friday afternoon here. Nice Interview, Sam.

Christian: aggregator has been added.

Dims: good catch on the first one.  On the latter one, I definately go back further than that.  Here's a discusson on webdav, including some pictures.  Humorously, all the ones that I appear in are from the back.

Santiago... please feel free to wander by here.  That comment gives me much to think about.  Thanks!

"James, Some Rubbing? or is it a Google artifice"

HA! Google.  I practically flunked Spanish ;-)  I do better with programming languages than foreign ones. :-)

I make no secret that Mr. Ruby is one of my favorite guys at Apache. I don't always agree with him, for instance I think he overstates the importance of Web Services at least for the next few years. This comes from the simple ideas that if...

My word - Bob McMillan looks like your brother in that photo at the foot of the article...

Well, considering that the image is:

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/i/p-samr.jpg

I'd say that's either a mistake or just some really strange formatting. Surely, they didn't intend to put sam's pic beside Bob's bio?

I make no secret that Mr. Ruby is one of my favorite guys at Apache. I don't always agree with him, for instance I think he overstates the importance of Web Services at least for the next few years. This comes from the simple ideas that if...