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Everything is Relative

Last week, Aaron Swartz took the opportunity to show me what this weblog looked like on Safari when you specify a relatively small font size as the default.

Suffice it to say that it wasn't pretty.

I've now converted all my fonts to a relative specification, and tried a variety of font sizes with both IE and Mozilla.  Can somebody try different font sizes with Safari and let me know how things look?


Sam - looks good for me in Safari with all text sizes.

Posted by Erik Hatcher at

Ditto.

Posted by Timothy Appnel at

Ahh yes, I had the same problem. I didn't know it until
a Safari user wrote to me that reading my site was causing "bleeding from the eyes".

Posted by Joe Gregorio at

If only it were Safari's developers bleeding from the eyes. Four pixels forward, four pixels back.

Posted by Grant Carpenter at

I'll ditto that, with Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.6 Gecko/20020830 on RedHat Linux 8.0 with antialiasing turned off.

I haven't been able to gather from the discussion whether the size selections are being driven by the website or are working off the browser's default size.  When someone says "text can be resized up or down in any browser", do they mean for all sites, or individually?  Most sites come thru for me at good sizes, but here now and recently in Tim Bray's testing, wham, they went miniscule.



Emailed by Ken MacLeod at

Much nicer, although I still have to bump things up a size because you specified a font-size.

The frustration with specifying a font-size is this:

a) If you specify no font size, it will look just right to people who know how to tell their browsr what their favorite font size is. And to people who don't it will be rather large, like every web page they visit.

b) If you specify a font size, it will look smaller for those people who don't know how to tell their browser what font size to use and it will look wrong to those who do.

I think the a is a much better choice, especially since most of your readers probably know how to tell their browser what font size to use.

Posted by Aaron Swartz at

Looks great right now.

Posted by Ken MacLeod at

Oy ve! Font's entirely too large at Normal size on IE6.  Ah well, I can live with it.

Posted by James Snell at

It's tres large in Moz (and probably anything using 16px as the baseline), but alas biggish type trends towards an aesthetics issue, smallish type causes usability squeaks.

Posted by Grant Carpenter at

Tinkering

I’m trying to be a good citizen by removing absolute font sizes from my “blue” layout (I already have them mostly sorted with the “gray” one) but it’s not as smooth of a process as I’d like. Things probably...

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