The icon in the system try changes color if there is new items
to be read.
Syndirella detects when the content of a given item
Not a very long list. Of course, many of the
Syndirella items apply to SharpReader too.
SharpReader's systray icon also changes when new items come in (though it's a subtle change - the #-symbol just changes from blue to yellow)
On content-changes, SharpReader marks the item as unread again. I understand Syndirella is a bit smarter about this and marks changed items differently from unread ones. If there's enough demand for this feature I may add it in a future release.
For me it's the simplicity that wins - SharpReader's interface is noisier (all those tree icons), and I only subscribe to about forty feeds (on vaguely similar themes) and so the tree categorisation just takes up my lovely white space.
Also, SharpReader's comment feature, though cool, doesn't seem to detect reciprocal links (e.g. infinite tree structures? In fact look at the comments for this post to see this in action), and the keystrokes for "mark all as read" etc are hard on those of us with small hands. :)
For two apps both at the 0.9 stage, Syndirella feels more polished, but both are a quantum leap from where desktop aggregators were a year ago.
Interesting. I didn't notice that... simply launching SharpReader changes the icon back to blue... even without reading the items. Slightly different semantics, but equally as valid.. as long as one knows what to look for. Cool.
Without some visual indication that the item is changed, I get a weird sense of deja vu when reading the item again...
Phil - I try to test every aggregator out there. Syndirella was the first one that actually got me to switch from Radio... after a several week period of running both. At the point I switched, I posted the few things I missed about Radio.
SharpReader has inspired me to switch from Syndirella, after a several hour period of running both.
Sam - I suspect that my real reason for not moving over is mostly UI inertia. I like my "Add RSS feed" button. I don't like trees. But then again, I really like the fact that I can see the comments. Decisions decisions.
If these are the only reasons to prefer Syndirella to SharpReader then you should stick with SharpReader. Both features you describe could be implemented in about half an hour if Luke decided there was significant user demand.
I've tried out SharpReader (and Harvester) which have convinced me to give up on the Winforms code base of RSS Bandit and start work with Torsten on the Magic library UI. The threaded posts feature is interesting. I have a couple of implementation strategies in mind for doing something similar for my RssComponents library but have no idea how to support this in the RSS Bandit GUI. It looks like one would have to use a customized list view to create a threaded effect and my GUI knowledge isn't much above novice. :)
I looked at your old list at http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/1179.html and the one feature that resonates with me is the plugin architecture. My current v-next feature list in order of priority is to move the GUI code to use the Magic library, implement a [back] button that doesn't suck, add Windows Update style auto-updating and improve the user extensibility story.
Currently Torsten has added at least one extensilbility hook. You can provide your own XSLT stylesheet for use in displaying RSS items in the browser pane. What extensibility hooks are interesting to you?
Actually the fact that the Post Reply dialog is modal is more the issue than the fact that I don't have tabbed pane support. I read your post on the blogging ecosystem and couldn't make head or tails of it on the first pass. Maybe I had a rough weekend. :)
Hooking in DLLs to handle UI events is interesting. This is probably something I have to think out clearly instead of just hacking in between meetings. This probably means exposing some sort of RSS Bandit object model, good thing I was already thinking of rewriting the code. :)
Mark Pilgrim pointed to Sam Ruby's brief review of the newly-released SharpReader. "Yeah, that's cool," I think. "I'll check it out." So I downloaded SharpReader and imported my feeds from......
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Syndirella development ceasing
Syndirella development is basically over ... I'm really, really tempted to give up Syndirella development. And this is one of the reasons why. SharpReader today has just about everything that I wanted to implement in Syndirella in the next 2-3...
Quote: "...and last but not least, for items that include the full html description, sharpreader lets you expand a headline to view links and responses to/from other posts in other feeds. This allows you to read posts in context, and will show...
Syndirella is under the terms of the GNU GPL. I could not figure out what terms SharpReader was on.
I wanted to port one of those to use Gtk# (the toolkit we use in Linux) to have it running on Mono.
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Miguel, I tried and failed to find any mention of the license or the source code for SharpReader. It looks like Syndirella is your best (only?) choice. With the primary author abandoning it, you could take over the entire project and use it as an example of what Mono can do.
Here is the license from Help -> Introduction while running the app:
DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY AND LIMITATION OF LIABILITY. THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. WITHOUT LIMITATION, LUCAS HUTTEMAN DISCLAIMS ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES WITH RESPECT TO THE SOFTWARE, ITS MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE. YOU ASSUME ALL RISK IN USING THE SOFTWARE. IN NO EVENT WILL LUCAS HUTTEMAN BE LIABLE FOR INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, LOSS OF INCOME, LOSS OF USE, OR LOSS OF INFORMATION. IN NO EVENT WILL LUCAS HUTTEMAN BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, EVEN IF LUCAS HUTTEMAN SHALL HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES OR FOR ANY CLAIM BY ANY OTHER PARTY. CERTAIN STATES DO NOT PERMIT EXCLUSIONS OF IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR LIMITATIONS OF LIABILITY, SO THIS DISCLAIMER MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU OR MAY APPLY TO YOU ONLY IN PART. YOU MAY HAVE OTHER LEGAL RIGHTS WHICH VARY FROM STATE TO STATE.
<a href='http://www.hutteman.com/weblog/2003/04/06.html#000056' >windows users can read news feeds too</a>...
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Sharpreader - It's Sort of Cool
OK, I installed Sharpreader today and ran it. I don't like that there's no way to mark a group of messages as read or unread. I don't like that it doesn't notify you when new messages arrive. These things have been said before. I sort of like...
Speaking of aggregators, I've recently switched from Syndirella to SharpReader. Sam Ruby has a great discussion of the differences between them. As far as I'm concerned, I like the ability to group my feeds by folder in SharpReader, although I......
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More RSS Aggregators
Haven't had time to review these, but wanted to list them: nntp//rss: a way to view RSS headlines in your favorite USENET reader Wildgrape NewsDesk And of course the much-lauded SharpReader. Some comments on SharpReader vs. Syndirella I agree with......