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If you're looking for words that rhyme with "semantic", rhymezone.com is the place to be.

The antic web - I like it!

Sam Ruby points to Stefano Mazzocchi's comment: I'm more and more heading myself into the concept of 'data emergence' where you don't go around bothering people to markup their data as *you* like it, but *you* make an effort to collect their data...

Jon Udell, Sam Ruby and Stefano Mazzocchi have been talking about the concept of Data Emergence. Data Emergence is the incidental creation of personal information through the selfish pursuit...

I'm with Stefano & the commentators on the value of emergent data, but there seems to be an unquestioned assumption of the validity of Cory's 'metacrap' argument (people have to work to add metadata to their material + people are lazy => semweb won't work)*. This makes the whole thing something of an either/or when in reality both two sources of metadata can combine to form a greater whole.

(my own response to 'metacrap' is at
http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200211/msg00707.html )

Danny, have you read Mark Pilgrim's The Lies Can Be Categorized?

Sam - yep, I had, thanks. It struck me as either being rather defeatist, as if technology will never advance beyond what was around at the end of the last century, or quite positive, because the issues he raises are actively being solved. On his points :

1. “Don’t worry your little head about it, we’ll build you programs to hide this horrific syntax from you.”
Why not? My current project is a tool which uses RDF, in which it's hidden from the end user. Whether this will "save" anyone, I don't now...

2, 3, 4, 5. Good justification for better adoption and mechanised implementation of standards, especially metadata standards.

Engineers, tools and metadata are saving us ;-)

Pedantic Web. Stefano Mazzocchi:Good idea. Bad name. ;-)[Sam Ruby] Agreed. But I don't have any smarter idea for a...

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Well, the term 'pedantic web' was not meant to describe *my* intentions, but to humorously rename the semantic web.

Ah, classic indefinite antecedent problem. With your clarification, this makes much more sense now.

Thanks Stefano!

As I commented by email to Stefano (joking about "Romantic Web"), "Pragmatic Web" would be a much accurate name for the "Data Emergence" efforts, even if it does not rhyme.

I algo pointed him to "The Library of Babel" (http://memojo.com/memojowiki/Wiki.jsp?page=RomanticWeb),
a great story by Borges which points to the problems at stake here.

Pedantic Web. Stefano Mazzocchi:Good idea. Bad name. ;-)[Sam Ruby] Agreed. But I don't have any smarter idea for a name....

http://PedanticWeb.com