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Towards secure comments

From Dave to Ben to Bill to Justin to Eric, an idea is forming on how to do decentralized and secure comments. Stripping away all the implementation details here's the basics as I see them:

I like the idea of validating against something I can find in somebody's weblog. I'd also like to suggest that instead of sending back responses and presuming that the recipient is online, that I merely produce a personalized feed and leave it on my server to be fetched whenever the client desires.


There's a nice idea in there, making the identity part of the user's weblog. I like that.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that Dave's solution will not use PGP, REST, LINK, RSS 1.0, RDF, or FOAF, because, respectively, it's overly complex, it's overly simplistic, it requires an HTML parser, it's evil, it's evil incarnate, and it's the fruit of a poisonous tree.

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Sam Ruby and Secure Commenting

"Stripping away all the implementation details here's the basics as I see them: * Comments are digitally signed * Recipient fetches proported sender's web page and discovers the key and followup policy * Recipient provides selected comments and or...

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More on web comments...

Well, lesse here, lots of feedback and thoughts from Friday's FOAF post:Timothy Appnel (via Ben Hammersley's weblog): Why do we need a full MT plugin?Jon Gales: What if someone doesn't have a web site?James Snell: Suggests creating a "WhoAmI" RDF file (with some of the W3C's P3P thrown in for good measure).Sam Ruby: Why not provide a personalized feed? Coolest of all though: Fun with FOAF. It's a Perl module that takes care of most... [more]

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Jabber-based FOAF

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Fun with FOAF

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The Digital ID Federation Myth The key to any federation is understanding who's in it and who's out. The Digital ID federation concept sounds attractive, but doesn't include the customers, whose voice and stake in the game are like American Indians...

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