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Lawrence Lessig: creative reuse of creative content is what CC is all about   It appears that these licenses were designed in according to the Jon Udell's philosophy Expect, and encourage, unintended use.


I added to my original post on this.

This was poor decision making. Why would one use an untested, untried license that is admittedly not designed for the software industry, in place of licenses that are designed for the industry and have been used successfully for many years?

Why would anyone encourage anyone to do so, creating massive amounts of confusion and conflict?

This post of Lessig's and his alteration of it based on your encouragement has, in my opinion, lowered the credibility of the Creative Commons and its products.



Posted by Burningbird at

Hey Shelley, how's the Humano-Tech Weblogger Conference going?

I don't ask that out of being spiteful or mean. The people who are involved in the CC seem to be a very motivated set of people. Heck, they've even taken their case before the US Supreme Court.

They also seem to be very much aware of the fact that they do not have the answers to all of the worlds problems. Nor do they have the resources to tackle every worthwhile cause.

So they tackle the problems that they can.

If you ask them about about software licenses, you get an answer "not today". You ask them tough questions about RSS, you get an answer that rought equates to "sounds like a good idea". Meanwhile their energies are focused on more Mickey Mouse issues. However, if you want to join them, I'm sure they could use the help.

Or you can continue to throw stones.

Meanwhile I have a lot of respect for people like Matt

Posted by Sam Ruby at

Sam you win. If I disagree, I'm throwing stones. I have no credibility unless I subsume my opinion to yours, or Dave's, or Aaron's.

Stop energy. Since when did have to buy one's way into this discussion by only flowing with the stream, or by putting out applications online, or by scratching code on the back of a napkin. Since when does one have to include opinion within angle brackets to be heard?

As for the conference, I have no part in this. This is your conference now. Your's, Dave's, and others. It is no longer mine.



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Bombs away!

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Debate continues

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I think the link in the commented-upon posting meant to say:

http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/12/19/021219opwebserv.xml

Regarding the license, I again thank Shelley for raising what I think are important questions. I'm still unsure about my use of that license. The whole project is an experiment, and it became part of the experiment. I will say, though, that my 5 lines of JavaScript (which became 3 lines today, when I took another look at) is not much of a test case for CC w/respect to software. I'm mainly an idea person, a writer, and a scripter, not a professional developer. Even if CC is right for my project, I would not presume to advocate it in place of established licenses for more conventional kinds of software projects.

If others would, though, I'd be interested to read those arguments.

PS: I'm stumped on the sleeping lion riddle.



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Common Law

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Unintended

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